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Why do people do wrong, according to the Stoics?
Learn why Epictetus and Marcus Aurelius trace wrongdoing to error, not malice, and why that changes how you respond to it.
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The short answer
The Stoics hold that no one does wrong knowingly. People act badly because they are mistaken about what is genuinely good and bad, mistaking externals like money or status for what matters most. Since assent always follows what appears true, and pursuit always follows what appears good, a wrongdoer is not choosing evil with clear eyes but acting on a false judgment that seemed true to him. This is why Epictetus and Marcus Aurelius answer wrongdoing with correction and pity rather than anger or hatred.
Key points
- Epictetus argues that assent always follows what appears true, so no one assents to a falsehood while knowing it is false.
- By the same logic, no one pursues something while judging it bad for them, so wrongdoing is a mistake about good and evil, not a clear-eyed choice of evil.
- Epictetus calls the thief and the adulterer mistaken rather than simply wicked, and says the fitting response is to show them their error.
- He compares punishing this error with hatred to condemning someone for being blind or deaf, since the wrongdoer has already lost the greatest thing, a well-functioning faculty of choice.
- Marcus Aurelius applies the same idea each morning, reminding himself that the people who will wrong him act from ignorance of good and evil.
- Recognizing wrongdoing as error changes the fitting response from anger to correction and pity, without excusing the act itself.
The longer answer
Epictetus builds his answer from a claim about the mind itself. Assent, the act of taking something to be true, only ever follows the appearance of truth: "the fact that it appears to be true" is the whole cause of assenting to it (Discourses I 28). You cannot make yourself believe it is night when it plainly looks like day. The mind is built to follow what seems true and to move toward what seems good, and it cannot do otherwise. From this Epictetus draws the conclusion that matters: nobody assents to something believing it false, and nobody pursues something believing it bad for them. "Every soul is unwillingly deprived of the truth," he says, borrowing the line from Plato (Discourses I 28). Wrongdoing, on this view, is never a clear-eyed choice of evil over good. It is a mistake about which is which.
Discourses I 18 applies this directly to people we are tempted to call vicious. Epictetus imagines someone objecting: but these men are thieves and robbers. His answer is not to excuse the theft but to relocate the problem: "they are mistaken about good and evil" (Discourses I 18). The thief has judged, wrongly, that the object he steals is worth more than his own integrity. That judgment is false, but from inside it, stealing looks advantageous. Epictetus goes further than diagnosis. He asks whether such people should be destroyed for it, and answers that this would be exactly as inhuman as destroying someone for being blind or deaf (Discourses I 18). The wrongdoer has lost the greatest thing a person can lose, a will or faculty of choice functioning as it should, and that loss is itself the harm. His verdict: pity him rather, and drop the readiness to be offended and to hate (Discourses I 18).
The common misreading is to hear this as a kind of moral relaxation, as if the Stoics think wrongdoing does not really matter or should not be resisted. That is not the claim. Epictetus does not say the theft is fine, and he does not say we should stop correcting it. He says: show them their error, and you will see how they desist from it (Discourses I 18). Correction, not punishment fueled by anger, is the fitting response, because anger treats the person as if they saw clearly and chose badly anyway, when in fact they did not see clearly at all.
Marcus Aurelius opens his Meditations with the same premise turned into a daily exercise. He tells himself to expect, each morning, to meet the busybody, the ungrateful, the arrogant, the deceitful, and to remember why: "all these things happen to them by reason of their ignorance of what is good and evil" (Meditations 2.1). Because he has seen what the good really is and what the bad really is, he can neither be harmed by their error nor be angry at people who share his own nature and, on his account, the same portion of intelligence (Meditations 2.1). To act against one another over this is to act against nature, since we are made for cooperation the way hands, feet, and eyelids are made to work together (Meditations 2.1).
Behind both passages sits the deeper Stoic claim that the faculty of choice is the one thing fully up to a person, and that only its condition, not the state of the world, is genuinely good or bad (Handbook 1, Discourses I 1). The wrongdoer has confused an external, money, status, safety, for something worth more than the health of that faculty. That confusion is the disease. Anger is the wrong medicine because it does not touch the judgment causing the trouble and instead adds a second false judgment of your own.
What this changes in practice is where you put your effort. Instead of rehearsing how someone wronged you, ask what false belief about good and evil could make that action look sensible to them. That question does not excuse the act. It tells you what would actually need to change, and it keeps your own faculty of choice, the only thing truly yours, out of the wreckage.
Primary passages
They are mistaken about good and evil. Ought we then to be angry with them, or to pity them? But show them their error, and you will see how they desist from their errors.
Epictetus, Discourses I 18 Read in context
Epictetus's core diagnosis: wrongdoing is error about value, so the fitting response is correction, not anger.
the greatest thing in every man is the will or choice such as it ought to be, and a man is deprived of this will, why are you also angry with him? Man, you ought not to be affected contrary to nature by the bad things of another. Pity him rather
Epictetus, Discourses I 18 Read in context
The wrongdoer has already lost the one thing that matters most, which is why Epictetus asks for pity instead of hatred.
every soul is unwillingly deprived of the truth, as Plato says; but the falsity seemed to him to be true.
Epictetus, Discourses I 28 Read in context
The Socratic and Platonic root of the claim: no one errs willingly, because falsehood always wears the mask of truth.
All these things happen to them by reason of their ignorance of what is good and evil.
Marcus Aurelius, Meditations 2.1 Read in context
Marcus turns the same idea into a morning rehearsal for dealing with difficult people.
To act against one another then is contrary to nature
Marcus Aurelius, Meditations 2.1 Read in context
Marcus grounds patience with wrongdoers in the natural fact of human cooperation, not mere tolerance.
Important distinctions
Explaining wrongdoing versus excusing it
Saying that wrongdoing comes from ignorance is not saying it does not matter or should go uncorrected. Epictetus still calls the act theft or adultery and still wants it stopped. What changes is the diagnosis of why it happened and therefore what response actually addresses it: showing the error, not venting anger at the person.
Anger at the person versus care about the deed
The Stoic point targets anger and hatred toward the wrongdoer, not concern about the deed. Marcus can note that ingratitude and deceit are ugly while still refusing to be vexed at the people who practice them, because vexation adds a second error, his own, on top of theirs.
Objections and replies
This looks like it removes responsibility
If nobody does wrong on purpose, it can sound like the Stoics are letting wrongdoers off the hook, since they never really chose badly with full knowledge.
Epictetus does not conclude that wrongdoers should go unchallenged. He says show them their error, which assumes the error is theirs to correct and that correction is due. The claim is about the mechanism behind bad action, not about waiving accountability for it.
Some people do seem to know better and act badly anyway
A thoughtful reader will object that plenty of wrongdoing looks deliberate and clear-eyed, not confused, which seems to strain the claim that no one errs willingly.
Epictetus's argument is that whatever a person is pursuing, they are pursuing it as good for them in that moment, even if a calmer version of themselves would judge otherwise. The confusion is about final value, what is actually good, not about practical cleverness in getting what one wants.
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Sources
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- Marcus Aurelius, Meditations Primary text, Stoa library