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“This day will end like all others.”

“And after that?”

In this conversation, Caleb speaks with Zena Hitz about her recent book “A philosopher looks at the religious life.” They discuss meaning, Christianity, and Stoicism.

(01:10) Wholeheartedness

(06:59) Meaning

(14:18) Abandonment

(17:45) Devotion and Role Ethics

(30:08) Service and Happiness

(40:32) Freedom

(44:33) Nietzsche

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Thanks to Michael Levy for graciously letting us use his music in the conversations.