In this conversation, Caleb Ontiveros speaks with James Kierstead. James runs the YouTube Channel Ancient and Modern, studied at Stanford, and now serves as a senior lecturer and research fellow.

Caleb and James talk about the place of classics today, the idea of "the west", James's personal experiences with meditation and Buddhism, and how buddhism and Stoicism come together today.

This conversation will be interesting to anyone thinking about ancient history, the classics, and the connections between modern buddhism and Stoicism.

Listen to it here: (Android, iPhone).