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This episode is with Dr. Marcus Hedahl. Marcus turns the tables and asks Caleb Ontiveros about his article, Stoicism For Me But Not For Thee. They each discuss how to talk to irrational and non-Stoic people.

Stoicism For Me But Not For Thee

Marcus Hedahl on Stoic Happiness

(03:01) Stoicism for Me

(16:28) Blaming Others

(19:18) Pluralism?

(20:55) Inviting Others to Stoicism

(31:57) Why Do We Want Others to be Stoic

(33:52) Groaning With Others

(40:43) Pity and Empathy

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Thanks to Michael Levy for graciously letting us use his music in the conversations.