Concept
Indifferents: what is neither good nor bad
Learn why the Stoics called wealth, health, and even death indifferent, and why that word does not mean unimportant.
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Definition
Indifferents (Greek adiaphora) are things that are in themselves neither good nor bad, because they lie outside the mind's own faculty of choice: the body, health, wealth, reputation, and even life and death. Only virtue is good and only vice is bad; everything else is raw material to be used well or badly.
Key points
- Only virtue is good and only vice is bad for the Stoics; everything else is classified as indifferent, neither good nor bad in itself.
- A thing is indifferent if it lies outside the will or faculty of choice, including the body, wealth, reputation, and even life and death.
- Indifferent does not mean unimportant: Epictetus and Seneca both insist that the use of indifferent things is not indifferent and requires care.
- Seneca proposes calling externals we rightly pursue advantages or preferred things rather than goods, since the essence of goodness is not in them.
- Indifferents are not all equal in weight: a preference like grooming is lighter than death, which carries a natural aversion though it is not truly evil.
- The doctrine lets a person pursue health, wealth, and safety fully while locating their good or ill entirely in their own judgments and choices.
Explanation
The claim
For the Stoics, only virtue is good and only vice is bad. Everything else, wealth, health, reputation, sickness, poverty, even death, falls into a third category: adiaphora, things indifferent. Epictetus puts the test plainly. Asked what things are indifferent, he answers: "The things which are independent of the will" (Discourses I 30). If something can be taken from you by forces outside your own faculty of choice, it cannot be what makes your life good or bad. That work belongs only to your judgments, choices, and use of things.
Marcus Aurelius draws the same line inside a single person. The body cannot perceive differences, so all things are indifferent to it. The mind, though, has its own activity, its judgments and choices, and only what falls outside that activity is indifferent to it too (Meditations 6.32). The dividing line is not between body and world but between what your faculty of choice does and everything it does not do.
The misreading
The word "indifferent" invites a shallow reading: that Stoics should not care about health, money, or whether they live or die. This is not the doctrine. Seneca is direct about how strange this sounds even to sympathetic readers: an opponent argues that a glorious death cannot be indifferent, since nothing indifferent is glorious. Seneca answers that death itself is indifferent, but a brave death is glorious, because glory belongs to how a person deals with indifferent things, not to the things themselves (Moral Letters Vol II 82.10). Indifferent does not mean unimportant. It means not itself good or bad, not the kind of thing that can make you a good or bad person by its presence or absence.
Epictetus makes the same point through an image from gambling. The dice and counters are indifferent, but how you play them is not. He warns explicitly against the lazy version of the doctrine: telling someone that things are indifferent should never make him negligent, because life is indifferent but the use of life is not (Discourses II 6). Careful, skillful engagement with externals is exactly what the doctrine asks for. What it forbids is putting your good or your ill inside them.
Preferred and dispreferred
The Stoics distinguish preferred and dispreferred indifferents according to their relation to nature. This is different from Seneca’s classification of goods in Letter 66.5: that passage distinguishes ways virtue is expressed, not kinds of indifferent things. Elsewhere he grades indifferents themselves by weight: death is not as indifferent as how you wear your hair, because death has in it a semblance of evil, an aversion built into us by nature, even though it is not actually an evil (Moral Letters Vol II 82.15). The distinction between preferred and dispreferred indifferents predates Seneca; these letters explain how to apply it. Health, wealth, and a sound body are naturally to be selected. Sickness, poverty, and pain are naturally to be avoided. Neither selection nor avoidance makes them good or bad.
Seneca even proposes a technical name for the preferred kind: not goods, but advantages, things to be held as property outside ourselves, not as parts of ourselves (Moral Letters Vol II 74.17). He explains why he still seeks health and rest, not because they are goods, but because they accord with nature, and because seeking them well is itself an exercise of good judgment. The only good in a suitable dinner or a steady walk is the deliberate choice behind it, not the dinner or the walk (Moral Letters Vol II 92.11).
Why it matters, and the hard case
Take this seriously and something changes. You still pursue health, provide for your family, and take a job that pays well. But you stop locating your worth in whether you get them. Epictetus's dice player is careful about the throw and untroubled by the outcome, because the outcome is not where good or bad live (Discourses II 5). Seneca argues that Fortune only hands us raw material. Whether it becomes good or ill depends on the state of the soul that receives it, not on Fortune itself (Moral Letters Vol III 98.2).
The hardest case is death. Calling death indifferent looks callous. But Seneca does not say death does not matter. He says the fear built into us by nature is not proof that death is evil, only that it feels that way, and that a person who correctly judges baseness as the only evil can face death without anxiety (Moral Letters Vol II 85.24). This is the radical part of the doctrine, stated without softening: your life and death are not, strictly, good or bad. Only your character in the face of them is. That is a demanding claim, and the Stoics knew it. Their answer is that it is also the only view that keeps your good entirely in your own keeping.
Historical context
The doctrine of indifferents is central to Stoic ethics from its founders onward and survives most fully in the Roman Stoics preserved here. Seneca uses the Greek term adiaphora directly and explains it to his correspondent Lucilius across several letters, defending it against contemporary objections, for instance that calling death indifferent makes it impossible for a death to be glorious. Epictetus builds his teaching in the Discourses around the same distinction, applying it to daily situations like a person going before a powerful official. Marcus Aurelius, writing privately in the Meditations, applies it to his own body and mind rather than arguing the case.
Important philosophers
Primary-source passages
I consist of a little body and a soul. Now to this little body all things are indifferent, for it is not able to perceive differences. But to the understanding those things only are indifferent, which are not the works of its own activity.
Marcus Aurelius, Meditations 6.32 Read in context
Marcus locates the boundary of the indifferent inside the person, at the edge of the mind's own activity.
death is not so indifferent as the question whether your hair should be worn evenly or unevenly. Death belongs among those things which are not indeed evils, but still have in them a semblance of evil
Seneca, Moral Letters Vol II 82.15 Read in context
Not all indifferents carry equal weight. Seneca grades them, which is the root of the later distinction between preferred and dispreferred indifferents.
Other things are goods according to opinion, and though they are called by the same name as the true goods, the essence of goodness is not in them. Let us therefore call them “advantages,” and, to use our technical term, “preferred” things. Let us, however, recognize that they are our chattels, not parts of ourselves
Seneca, Moral Letters Vol II 74.17 Read in context
Seneca proposes precise vocabulary: externals that we rightly pursue are advantages or preferred things, never goods in the strict sense.
Disagreements and interpretations
Indifferent means unimportant
The common misreading takes indifferent to mean the Stoics did not care whether they were healthy or sick, rich or poor, alive or dead. On this reading Stoicism becomes a philosophy of not caring. The texts do not support this. Epictetus explicitly warns against becoming negligent when told that things are indifferent, and insists the use of indifferent things is not indifferent at all (Discourses II 6). Seneca still prays for health and seeks rest, only denying that these are goods in the strict sense (Moral Letters Vol II 92.11).
Indifferent means not constitutive of your good
The stronger reading, and the one the passages support, is that indifferents cannot make you a good or bad person, because that depends only on your judgments and choices, which are up to you. Externals are, in Seneca's phrase, chattels and not parts of ourselves (Moral Letters Vol II 74.17). This reading preserves full engagement with the world while placing your worth entirely inside your own faculty of choice.
A graded, not flat, category
A further reading, drawn from Seneca's own remarks, treats indifferents as a spectrum rather than a single flat class: some indifferents, like a stylish hairstyle, barely register, while others, like death, carry a natural weight and a semblance of evil even though they are not truly evil (Moral Letters Vol II 82.15). This is one way of reading Seneca's ranking, and it is worth stating as an interpretation rather than a settled doctrine, since the texts here do not fully systematize the grading.
Questions involving indifferents
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What does Marcus Aurelius say is truly indifferent versus in our power?
Marcus Aurelius draws the line between what your mind does and what merely happens to you, and only the first counts as truly yours.
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Why does Marcus Aurelius say death and pain are neither good nor evil?
A look at the Stoic argument in Meditations 2.11: if something happens equally to good and bad people, it cannot be what makes a life good or bad.
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How does Marcus Aurelius distinguish real goods from what most people think is good?
A look at how Marcus Aurelius uses a simple test, what you are still willing to hear, to expose the difference between real goods and popular ones.
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What does Marcus Aurelius say is the only true good for a human being?
A look at Marcus Aurelius's claim that the only good for a person is character itself, and why he places justice, temperance, courage and freedom above everything external.
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How does Marcus Aurelius describe death in the Meditations?
A look at how Marcus treats dying, not as an evil to fear, but as one more act of life to be done well.
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How does Marcus Aurelius explain suffering as prescribed by nature, like a doctor's remedy?
Marcus Aurelius compares what nature brings you to a doctor's prescription: unwelcome, but fitted to your good.
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How does Marcus Aurelius use memento mori to curb desire for fame?
A look at how Marcus turns the thought of death into a cure for caring what other people think of you.
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How does Marcus Aurelius use the idea of imminent death to guide daily action?
A look at how Marcus Aurelius uses the thought of death, not as dread but as a standard for how to act right now.
Related concepts
Sources
- Marcus Aurelius, Meditations Primary text, Stoa library
- Seneca, Moral Letters Vol II Primary text, Stoa library