In this conversation, I speak with the writer and economist Jonathan Church.

Jonathan Church maybe most well known for his experiencing brain cancer. We spoke about that in our previous conversation. In this conversation, we speak about the topics of his new book Virtue in an Age of Identity Politics: A Stoic Approach to Social Justice.

What social justice amounts too is, of course, a culturally and politically controversial matter. But the issue is important. Jonathan takes a reasonable and careful approach towards these issues that is admirable, regardless of whether one agrees with the conclusions.

What are those conclusions? Listen to the conversation here: (Android, iPhone) or check out his book to learn more.