Six Stoicisms: Modern vs. Traditional Stoicism and More (Episode 8)

Caleb Ontiveros -

In this conversation, Michael and Caleb discuss six different kinds of Stoicism:

  • $toicism
  • broicism
  • stoicism (little s stoicism)
  • Traditional Stoicism
  • Academic Stoicism
  • Modern Stoicism

Some of these are misunderstandings, or at least incomplete, other's are much more meaningful uses of the philosophy. Michael and Caleb talk about each with the aim of correctly understanding theory and determining what's useful to apply in ordinary life.

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Caleb Ontiveros has a background in academic philosophy (MA) and startups. His favorite Stoic is Marcus Aurelius. Follow him here: https://twitter.com/calebmontiveros


Michael Tremblay also has a background in academic philosophy (PhD) where he focused on Epictetus. He is also a black belt in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. His favorite Stoic is Epictetus. Follow him here: https://twitter.com/_MikeTremblay


Thanks to Michael Levy for graciously letting us use his music in the conversations.